FAA Control Number: 09-02-221
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ACTION: Mr. George Sempeles will report back at the next ACF with Mr. Boll’s and Mr.
Becker’s report.
MEETING 10-02: Mr. Richard Boll, NBAA, reviewed the issue. See attachment # 9: 09-02-221
Navigation of Class B Airspace. Mr. Boll reiterated that the pilot’s ability to navigate a
complex Class B airspace configuration without reference to visual landmarks when operating
at night or in IMC would be greatly enhanced by the use of a detailed Class B graphic on the
VFR Flyway chart, as depicted on the LA, San Diego, and Phoenix TACs.
Mr. Tom Kramer, AOPA, agreed with Mr. Boll and said the GA community would find this very
useful.
Mr. George Sempeles, FAA-AJR-32, said the three Class B graphics on VFR Flyway charts
(LAX, San Diego, and Phoenix) were created by a special request through the individual
TRACONs. Mr. Boll offered to contact each TRACON and request the Class B graphic be
provided on all VFR Flyway charts.
Ms. Valerie Watson, FAA/AJV-3B, had concerns that the existing graphics are not covered by
specification and that without some guidance on what to chart and how to chart it there would
be no consistency between charts. She requested that the Visual Chart Team submit a charting
specification change document supporting the charting of detailed Class B graphics so that she
can staff it through IACC channels.
ACTION: Mr. Ron Haag, FAA/AJV-321, will work with Ms. Valerie Watson, FAA/AJV-3B to
determine if VFR Flyway charts can be done in-house and determine what, if any,
specification changes may be needed. If required Mr. Haag will submit the
specification change.
ACTION: Mr. Ron Haag, AJV-321, after determining charting requirements will coordinate with
Mr. Rich Boll, NBAA, and the individual TRACON's to develop the requested VFR
Flyway Charts.
MEETING 11-01: Mr. Ron Haag, FAA/AJV-321, presented a briefing on the Class B depictions
on the Flyway side of the VFR Terminal Charts that have been published at Phoenix, Los
Angeles and San Diego. These detailed depictions were created due to the complex Class B
airspace configurations in these areas. Mr. Haag gave a general overview of the production
process, emphasizing that each Class B chart is approved by the respective TRACON prior to
publication.
Mr. Haag highlighted the challenges associated with the generation of the new Class B airspace
charts if the program is expanded to encompass all Class B airspace in CONUS. There was a
discussion on the distribution of the Class B airspace charts free of charge online. Adoption of
this proposal would include removal of the existing three Class B depictions currently available
on paper (LAX, PHX and SAN). This is still being discussed with the Service Area
representatives and pilot groups who understandably are concerned.